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Lilith Moonraven · Aug 22, 2007, 12:09 AM // 00:09

Is it me or has anyone else noticed this.I'd really like views on why there seems to be leveling differences in the 3 chapters

Zinger314 · Aug 22, 2007, 12:20 AM // 00:20

Factions was intended to have faster leveling and more lv. 20 content. Players complained that it was too fast, so they lessened the curve in Nightfall.

countesscorpula · Aug 22, 2007, 12:20 AM // 00:20

Yes, Prophecies characters level slower. This is due to the lower xp rewards for quests and missions. The reason* may very well be that Proph is the first game, and so they set up a slower development curve to gradually introduce players to the game and how it works.

Factions is mighty fast by comparison. Several of the quests are worth over 1000xp, compared with the wopping 500xp for most of Proph quests. Some people found the character growth in Factions to be something near approaching the speed of light... I'd be one of those people, and they slowed things down a touch in NF. NF is still much faster than Prophecies, especially with things like bounties, but not quite as fast as Factions. I think NF hit the sweet spot for char development speed... just my opinion.

* Pure speculation, based in no part on any official info from A-Net.

ensoriki · Aug 22, 2007, 12:30 AM // 00:30

factions was moreso for people migrating from prophecies who already beat the game. Ergo there was level 20 content to jump right into, that was also implemented in Nightfall just differently.

Although I prefer to run chars through factions (except for minister chos crap estate) so I can level em quickly and get going.

BLOODGOAT · Aug 22, 2007, 12:31 AM // 00:31

You're all wrong. It's because Prophecies is legit and Factions and NF are both uber-hax0r.

placebo overdose · Aug 22, 2007, 12:32 AM // 00:32

see i liked prophicies because in fac and NF you end up on a big island with lvl 20 enemies low level armor and not many skills

in proph you get tons of skills to try for free and lots of time to craft armor for the enemies you are fighting (take out the jungle that is useless)

Thunder79 · Aug 22, 2007, 12:37 AM // 00:37

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Originally Posted by ensoriki

factions was moreso for people migrating from prophecies who already beat the game. Ergo there was level 20 content to jump right into, that was also implemented in Nightfall just differently.

Nah...people migrating from prophecies could just take their characters straight there with no need to level at all...

People complained about the slow leveling in prophecies...they over-compensated with Factions...people complained it was too fast...so they slowed it down for Nightfall...

I like Nightfall leveling the most....if I just want a level 20 I take my characters to factions.

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(take out the jungle that is useless)

No...it's a significant chunk of the storyline in Prophecies...if anything they should eliminate the ability to get run straight to Sanctum Cay and make people at least run through the prophecies campaign. I'm sure there's a significant chunk of the community who won't even know who the Shining Blade are when Livia is introduced in GW:EN (the Shining Blade Necromancer Hero)

Exoudeous · Aug 22, 2007, 12:44 AM // 00:44

yea what everyone else said, the diffrences in leveling are becuase of community feedback

Div · Aug 22, 2007, 12:58 AM // 00:58

Prophecies was the first game that taught most of us how to play the game, with brand new mechanics and everything, so they made it have a really nice learning curve for us to test everything out. People didn't want to go through that same grind again for the other games, so Anet made them much faster paced.

savage vapor 33 · Aug 22, 2007, 01:28 AM // 01:28

Why cant we go back to the days where it was prophecies only. Slower leveling, better players, hard as hell to play. mm hmmm the good ol days.

Malice Black · Aug 22, 2007, 01:33 AM // 01:33

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Originally Posted by BLOODGOAT

You're all wrong. It's because Prophecies is legit and Factions and NF are both uber-hax0r.

This post wins.

MithranArkanere · Aug 22, 2007, 01:39 AM // 01:39

I have 4 Prophecies characters, 3 Factions and 3 Nightfall. My experience is this. From level 1 to 20 by making missions and quests (no running, power leveling or skipping) 6hours a day...1hour a day:
Prophecies: 2weeks..2months.
Factions: 6 hours 6 days.
Nightfall: 15 hours...15 days.

Cool eh?

Retribution X · Aug 22, 2007, 01:43 AM // 01:43

in all actuality, Prophecies and factions have about the same leveling speed. At least, well you can get your character to level 20 in the same amount of time.

In nightfall, you cannot. Which seriously sucked ass.

And Malice is right. That post wins this thread.

Performance Pudding · Aug 22, 2007, 03:37 AM // 03:37

i may get dumped on for saying this but ive found that after prophecies the game became way more gimmiky and got fairly boring. (the game just seemed to lose its sense of authenticity, hard to explain) so i swapped to good ol pre then travelled slowly back into the world of tyria and crept back out into w/e else. btw i got used to the campaigns and they all seem nice now. but to go back to the question i found that you can get to lvl 20 in under 24 hours in pre if you just follow the main questline and do the missions.

the fastest way would probably be: create char 2ndary as mesmer or warrior if u are a mesmer -> academy ->northern wall-> yaks-> LA -> and so on although i said proph missions are the most boring if your trying to be a title RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO like i said in the worst missions thread but if your playing for fun is which i try to do prophecies is by far the most enjoyable.

(best war armor in the game is elite charr, fow is over rated and all others are bland, would of been gladiator if they didnt release that gay helm which only looks good if your a elf from lotr)

wow i get off track well really easilly but untill i get home ill be babbling on in these forums.

Sophitia Leafblade · Aug 22, 2007, 08:57 AM // 08:57

Personally I think Phrophecies leveling was the better method,p you could take your time exploring doing missions etc. NF and Factions both promote high speed through the campaign and few people ever bothered with the quests since the primary quests gave all the xp you needed.

However If you wanted a lvl 20 fast you still could get one in prophecies, in less than a day of play you could easy get to lvl 20 and get through most (if not all) of the campaign much like the other campaigns, the difference is prophecies didnt force you to go at that rate it was an optional choice. IT was far easier to chill out and take things abit at a time. (as in do a mission, go exploring, do a quest, explore some more, maybe do another mission, etc. etc.)

WinterSnowblind · Aug 22, 2007, 09:17 AM // 09:17

I liked the openness of Prophecies, but at the same time it caused a lot of problems when I first started playing the game. I didn't really have any idea where I was, or where I was supposed to be going, and I actually missed a mission or two and parts of the story made no sense because of that. Once you understand that you're supposed to do Primary Quests and Missions to progress in the game, it's fine, but I don't think it actually tells you that anyway.

Both Factions and Nightfall taught you how to play the game better, although the speed you progress in Factions is ridiculously high. I think all of the quests give you between 2,500 - 5000 exp.

Yichi · Aug 22, 2007, 09:19 AM // 09:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Performance Pudding

i may get dumped on for saying this but ive found that after prophecies the game became way more gimmiky and got fairly boring. (the game just seemed to lose its sense of authenticity, hard to explain) so i swapped to good ol pre then travelled slowly back into the world of tyria and crept back out into w/e else. btw i got used to the campaigns and they all seem nice now. but to go back to the question i found that you can get to lvl 20 in under 24 hours in pre if you just follow the main questline and do the missions.

the fastest way would probably be: create char 2ndary as mesmer or warrior if u are a mesmer -> academy ->northern wall-> yaks-> LA -> and so on although i said proph missions are the most boring if your trying to be a title RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO like i said in the worst missions thread but if your playing for fun is which i try to do prophecies is by far the most enjoyable.

(best war armor in the game is elite charr, fow is over rated and all others are bland, would of been gladiator if they didnt release that gay helm which only looks good if your a elf from lotr)

wow i get off track well really easilly but untill i get home ill be babbling on in these forums.

punctuation, sentance structure, and proper spelling, and someone might be able to read AND comprehend this post....

Redfeather1975 · Aug 22, 2007, 09:29 AM // 09:29

If Factions and Nightfall leveled as slow as Prophecies did then more than half of Factions and Nightfall content would be pre-level 20 content.
That probably wouldn't have sat too well with all the people who had lvl 20 Prophecies characters that they wanted to play exclusively. They'd be buying Factions and Nightfall for less than half the content.

Lilith Moonraven · Aug 22, 2007, 12:55 PM // 12:55

I'm still trying out different character ideas and just trying to find out what works for me.I always go looking for the secondary quests.I find it all very fun and enjoyable.

noblepaladin · Aug 22, 2007, 01:07 PM // 13:07

Many people have level 20 characters in Prophecies, so if they spend a lot of time making low level content for Factions and Nightfall, people with level 20 characters won't get to enjoy that (unless they make a new char, but some people like their old one).